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    Uprising 2011

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    Post  kgkid Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:24 am

    Evo kompletnih pravila. Molim Vas da procitate i ukažete na eventualne popuste u pravilima i gramatici ))

    Uprising 2011
    The International Warhammer tournament rules pack

    This pack contains the full Tournament rules specially adapted for the tournament organized by gaming club Valhala."Uprising" is to be held on 16-17. April 2011 in Novi Sad, Serbia

    The tournament will be held on 16th and 17th of April in SPENS main hall.
    All Tournament material will be published or presented in English, interpreters or translations can be provided only for Serbian language due to the variety of nationalities that we expect to attend the tournament. That is why all players have to understand English or Serbian.
    Rosters and descriptions of your forces to be handed in have to be in English or Serbian.
    The Chief Referee’s decision will be final.
    Entry fee is 10 Euro and includes refreshing drinks for all players for both days.
    If you have any questions about the event please e-mail: drseverian@gmail.com

    ETC AR 5.0

    Rules changes:
    - Characters will get "look out sir" versus the following spells that automatically kill models or automatically remove an entire regiment: Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation, Dreaded 13th, Infernal Gateway 11-12 effect. Normal requirements for lookout sir apply.

    I. General Restrictions:

    2400 Points.
    No Special or Named Characters.
    Army used can be any of the currently published GW Army books (O&G will use old rules).
    A maximum of 3 identical core choices may be taken (regardless of equipment and other upgrades)
    An army may have up to 5 war machines and template weapons. Warmachines that use a template count as a single choice in this regard. All template weapons (from magic items, abilities, etc.) count, except for spells.
    Max. 45 models with missile weapons with a range of 20”+ (not incl. war machines, characters and chariots).

    Unit sizes are limited as follows:
    Units cannot be more than 40 models nor 450 points (including all command, upgrades, magic items/banners). This restriction applies during the creation of the roster - unit size/cost may be increased during the game (for example - by joining characters to the unit). This restriction does not apply to characters.

    Magic Restrictions:
    - Apart from Winds of magic and Channeling, an army may only generate 2 PD/DD per magic phase.
    - You may have units/abilities that actually would generate more than 2 extra dice, but any excess dice are lost
    - Some magic items/abilities count as generating dice toward this limit.
    - “Count as” items/abilities may never exceed a cumulative 2 PD/DD per phase. This means that if you take the Book of Hoeth, you may not take any other items that “count as adding PD/DD”
    - All modifiers are applied from the army list and will not change during the game.

    Detailed description
    Apart from winds of magic and through the channeling rule, an army may only ever add 2 dice to its power or dispel pool in each magic phase. Any dice added to the pool, regardless of source (generated, stolen, stored from previous magic phases, generated by magic items/abilities to boost spellcasting before or after the casting attempt, produced by spells, lore abilities, and so on) count. Excess dice are simply discarded and cannot be used in any way (i.e. - they can’t be stored).

    If a dice is stolen from the opponent’s pool, but your army has already generated two extra dice, the dice is removed from the opponent’s pool and then discarded.

    Some special items and abilities DECREASE the limit of power or dispel dice you can add to the pool. We refer to those as “count as” items. What this means is that, if your roster includes one “counts as 1 Power Dice (PD)” item, your army can only add 1 power dice (instead of the usual 2 dice) to the pool in each of your own magic phases of the entire game (regardless of whether the item is destroyed or used up).
    Please note that you cannot have a combination of items that would decrease the limit of extra power or dispel dice to below zero.

    Item restrictions:
    - Power Scroll is banned
    - Each Loremaster ability counts as generating 1 PD each magic phase
    - Any item that auto-dispels a spell counts as generating 1 DD each magic phase.
    - Folding Fortress is not allowed

    Army Specific Restrictions:
    Beastmen: Beastmen armies have an extra 200 points for their roster (2600 total).
    Bretts: No Restrictions
    Dark Elves: Hydra is a 0-1 choice. Max. 35 repeater Crossbows in the army. Repeater Bolt Throwers 0-2.Flying units (inc. characters on flying steeds) in the army limited to 0-3. Shades max 20 models per army. Dreadlord on pegasus cannot take Crown of Command.
    Dwarves: Each spellbreaker/spelleater rune counts as +1 DD. Grudge Throwers are a 0-2 choice; May generate Max. +4 dispel dice instead of +2
    DOC: Max. 28 Models per unit; Flamers are a 0-1 choice. All daemonic gifts are 0-1. Bloodletters and Herald of Khorne are 0-3 total. Daemonic Battle Standard can take either daemonic icon or gifts.
    Empire: Steam Tank counts as a war machine; Tank, Rocket battery and Engineers are a 0-1 choice
    High Elves: Max. 500 points or 40 models per unit; Vortex Shard counts as +1DD; Book of Hoeth counts as 2PD and 2 DD; Banner of the World Dragon counts as +1 DD
    Lizardmen: Salamanders are a 0-1 Choice; Terradons, Chameleon Skinks and Stegadons (any kind) are 0-2 choices; Beclaming Cogitations counts as +2DD; Cupped hands counts as +2PD
    Ogres: Ogre Kingdoms armies have an extra 200 points for their roster (2600 total).
    O&G: No Restrictions
    Skaven: All Skaven rare choices 0-1; Gutter runners are a 0-2 choice; Engineers are a 0-3 choice;
    Vampires: Wraiths and Varghulf are 0-1 choices. Wraith unit size - maximum 5 models. Army may have maximum two units (total) of: wraiths, black coach or spirit hosts. Army with grave guard using great weapons may not have Drakenhoff Banner.
    TK: Tomb King armies have an extra 200 points for their roster (2600 total).
    WE: Wand of Wych Elm counts as +1 DD
    Warriors of Chaos: Hellcannon is a 0-1 choice. Infernal Puppet counts as +1 PD and +2DD; Tendrils of Tzeench and Conjoined Homunculus both counts as +1 PD. Favour of the Gods cannot be taken by a Champion of a Chosen of Tzeentch unit

    II. Pairings.

    Members of the same team will not be paired together.
    Tables - random.


    III. Scoring

    Victory points scored as per the rulebook, with the exceptions that:
    - units that are at 25% or less of their original models yield 50% VP's to the opponent (characters, monsters and handlers, war machines and single models are unaffected).
    -units that are fleeing at the end of the battle yield 50% VP's to the opponent.
    In both cases, bonuses (for generals, banners, etc.) are not counted towards the 50%.

    0-20 Victory-Points per game

    Victory points to Battle points per game:
    Victory-Points difference
    0-150 10-10
    151-300 11-9
    301-450 12-8
    451-600 13-7
    601-750 14-6
    751-900 15-5
    901-1050 16-6
    1051-1200 17-3
    1201-1350 18-2
    1351-1500 19-1
    1500+ 20/0


    Some games will NOT be decided using victory points, but will instead use the rules presented in the scenario rules in the rulebook. Those games can have the following results: Win, Loss, or a Draw, and the generalship points awarded for them are as follows:

    Game Result Score
    Win 20-1
    Draw 7-7
    Loss 1-20

    IV. Scenarios

    1st battle: Battlline
    As decribed in the rulebook.
    This scenario uses victory points for determining the winner
    2nd battle: Dawn attack
    As decribed in the rulebook.
    This scenario uses victory points for determining the winner
    3rd battle: Blood and glory
    As decribed in the rulebook.
    Special missions count as one additional point.
    4th battle: Meeting engagement
    As decribed in the rulebook.
    This scenario uses victory points for determining the winner
    5th battle: Headhunt Battleline
    • This game is set up and played exactly as rules for Battleline scenario (page 144)
    o This scenario uses victory points for determining the winner
    o Additional victory points can be gained (note that these are all EXTRA victory points, in addition to
    all those earned in the normal way):
    Each enemy hero killed is worth additional 50 victory points
    Each enemy monster killed is worth additional 100 victory points
    Enemy general is worth additional 100 victory points
    • The bonuses are cumulative, so general is worth in total: His point cost + 100 for
    general (normal bonus) + 50 (enemy hero killed, scenario bonus) + 100 (scenario
    bonus)
    SPECIAL MISSIONS & THE MASTER STRATEGIST AWARD

    We will give out a separate award for the player (or players!) who managed to score the highest number of Strategy Points over the weekend and who will be awarded the accolade of the Master Strategist for the event.
    Over the course of the event, you will be issued with 6 Special Mission Cards for use during the tournament. These allow you to play as part of a separate challenge to the main competition in order to find the player with the most tactically astute mind at the event. They are also intended to give players something else to
    think about in addition to completing the challenges they will face during the scenarios they will play.
    You will play one card per round that you will choose. When you decide what it is, make a note of it on your results card but don’t show your opponent.
    Each Mission is worth a certain number of Victory Points that must be recorded as part of your results for that round. Please note: you must mark on your results card whether or not you were successful in completing your mission.

    They are as follows:
    1 Assassination! “Cut away the Head and the body will crumble…” Your mission is to eliminate the enemy general. At the end of the game if the enemy general is either destroyed or fleeing you gain 200 VPs.
    2 Wood for the War Effort! “Wood is needed to fuel your campaign, capture those trees.” Your mission is to control more woods on the table than your opponent at the end of the game. To control a wood, at least half of the remaining models in one of your scoring units must be in the wood with no enemy in the same wood. Scoring units have at least 5 models, are not fliers or raised/summoned units. If you complete this mission, you receive 200 VPs.
    3 Higher Ground! “An elevated position is needed to establish a forward offensive.” Your mission is to control more hills on the table than your opponent at the end of the game. To control a hill, at least half of the remaining models in one of your scoring units must be on the hill with no enemy on the same hill. Scoring units have at least 5 models, are not fliers or raised/summoned units. If you complete this mission, you receive 400 VPs.
    4 Forward Offensive! “Get moving soldiers, we need to break through their lines!” To complete this mission, you must finish the game with three scoring units above half strength in the enemy deployment zone. Scoring units have at least 5 models who are not fliers or raised/summoned units. If you complete this mission, you receive 200 VPs.
    5 Surgical Strike! “Concentrate efforts on the General’s Elite, we must eliminate them!” Your mission is to destroy your opponent’s most expensive unit. If at the end of the game, you opponent’s most expensive unit is either fleeing or dead, you receive 200 VPs. If two or more units are the most expensive; you complete the mission if you destroy at least one of them.
    6 Crushing Blow! “Destroy the enemy’s morale by destroying his finest warriors!” Your mission is to destroy more of your opponent’s Special and Rare units than he does of yours. Fleeing units also count. If you complete this mission, you receive 200 VPs.


    V. Virtual Line of Sight

    Size chart:
    0: Swarms - models of this size never block line of sight or give cover.
    1: Infantry, War Beasts, War Machines
    2: Cavalry, Monstrous Infantry/Cavalry/Beasts, Chariots, Unique without the Large Target rule
    3: Monsters, all Large Targets

    Line of sight is always checked virtually, drawn "base to base". Models see in their front 1/4 zone. Line of Sight is blocked by models that are equal to or larger than both: the model whose line of sight we are checking and its target.

    Line of sight and war machines:
    Catapults (and similar) can place their template so that the center is over any one unit that is at least partially visible to them.
    Cannons can choose any point between themselves and a visible target when firing. Over- or under-guessing to shoot at units the cannon does not have line of sight to is not allowed

    Terrain
    Hills are size two for each level (so a 3-step hill is size 6) and block sight / give hard cover just like models of that size. Models standing on hills add the hill size to their own size. Buildings and large rocks always block line of sight completely. Forests do not block line of sight, but soft cover applies to all shots fired through or into (but not out of) forests. Ruins do not block line of sight, but hard cover applies to all shots fired into (but not through/out of) ruins. Units standing behind obstacles gain soft (wood) or hard (stone) cover as per the RB.

    Cover from intervening units/terrain
    Cover is granted when at least 50% of models in target unit are fully or partially obscurred by other units/terrain from the shooting model. In order for intervening models to grant cover, their size must be at least: one point smaller than both the target unit and the shooting model.

    Skirmishers
    Skirmishers never block LoS, and are seen in accordance with their size on the chart, but provide cover as per the above rules. The gap between skirmishers is treated as part of the unit when determining if skirmishers give cover to something behind them. Skirmishers formed up for combat block Line of Sight like normal units.

    VI The matches
    Each player will play 5 games in the tournament. The time limit for each game is 2 hours and 30 minutes.
    Tournament is played according to the Swiss-type: In the first round, competitors will be matched randomly. After that, competitors will be matched based on their points for Generalship. To match competitors by their Generalship score we will rank them from the highest score to the lowest, VPs difference being the tie-breaker. We will pair the competitors from this ranked list. The two players in first and second place will play each other, the players in third and fourth place will play each other, and so on. However team mates will not be paired to play against eachother. Competitors can never play the same opponent twice nor will they play their teammates. For the first round only, the players from the same club won't be paired against each other.
    Each battle will be fought on a 6' by 4' table.
    Each table will be a pre-designed battlefield with fixed scenery.
    Each player will have to bring the following things (in addition to his army): a copy of his Army Book, all
    the necessary dice and templates and a tape measure.
    Should a player be late for more than 29 minutes for his game, his opponent will score a Massacre
    victory.
    All official errata and FAQs on actual Army books must be used.
    The official languages of the tournament are Serbian and English, so it is imperative that you undestand
    Serbian and/or English, otherways you might not be allowed to participate in the tournament.

    Instead of 6th game, we will organize a little competition between teams: These competitions are meant to promote friendship and goodwill.
    Some of the competitions are:
    Rope tugging
    Tattoo painting
    Walking the plank
    Liars dice
    Dart throwing…

    VII Army Painting
    7.1 PART A: This section is to be filled out by you, the player.
    Your Name (Very Important!)
    Is every single model in the army painted? (If no, score is 0 – do not proceed any further.) YES NO
    Did you paint ALL of the army yourself? (If no, player is ineligible for WOW! mark) YES NO
    There will be two painting judges on the tournament. The judges will grade all the armies, and total will be divided by two, for a total of 30 points.
    7.2 PART B: This section is to be filled out by the judges - not you!
    Painted:
    a) Your army isn't painted - 0 points
    b) Your army has 3 colours - 3 points
    c) Every part of every miniature in your army is painted with at least 1 non-prime colour - 5 points
    Details:
    a) No details - 0 points
    b) At least some attempt is made to make details (either eyes and nails and hoofs of your miniatures (so all of those, as long as you have them), single colour is ok, or you done some level of shading (be it drybrush, highlight, or something else) - 3 points
    c) Each of your miniatures have painted eyes, hoof, nails (or whatever of those your miniatures have (or something else of course)), plus you have at least 2 levels of shading on your miniatures (background colour and highlight for example) - 5 points
    Bases:
    a) No bases - 0 points
    b) You have done at least something on your bases (flock for example) - 3 points
    c) You have either done scenic base (with stirodur or greenstuff for example), or you have 2 things on your bases (for example sand and static grass) - 5 points
    Converting:
    a) No converting done - 0 points
    b) at least 1 of your miniatures is converted - 3 points
    c) you eiher have 1 complex conversion (for example: green stuff used, or using parts from multiple models), or at least 30% of your army (round up number of models if it matters) has at least some level of conversion (for example head swaps) - 5 points
    Movement trays:
    a) no movement trays - 0 points
    b) you have movement trays - 3 points
    c) you have movement trays, and some attempt is done to make them look better, be it painting, or placing static grass on their edges or something else - 5 points
    Freehand:
    a) no freehand - 0 points
    b) Army has at least one freehand (flag,shield…) - 3 points
    c) Army has many freehand drawings (flags, shields, tattoos….) - 5 points.
    Judge 1 Signature:
    Judge 2 Signature:
    TOTAL SCORE.


    VIII Sportsmanship and Rules Questions

    The primary purpose of this tournament is to get together for the weekend, so that we can play our favorite game and meet other players who share our interests. Finding ‘champion players’ of our games is a byproduct of this, and we’re really much more interested in creating a quality gaming experience for all the people that take part, where they get to play lots of games and meet a whole bunch of new players.
    This being said we do understand that sometimes even the friendliest of players can lose their cool, especially if the dice have been going against them all day. The most common causes of friction in a game are questions about the rules of the game. Rules questions arise in most games, both because the huge number of variables involved in the game make it just about impossible for the rules manual to cover every situation that might occur, and because different people interpret the rules in different ways. In order to avoid arguments we recommend that you refer to the appropriate rules manual as soon as a question arises. If the rules do not cover the situation, then roll a dice to decide what happens. In other words, a friendly dice roll should decide any question that cannot be answered by referring to the rules.
    Please note that there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking an opponent if they can show you the appropriate rule or set of characteristics so that you can check for yourself that everything is being done correctly. All we require is that you ask nicely and politely, and that you do your best to sort out any problems yourselves.
    If you really want a Referee to arbitrate a rules question or help you out with a situation both players genuinely don’t understand, then you are free to call one over, and our Referees may intervene if they see an argument.
    Be warned, however, that our Referees are under strict instructions to give players one of two answers to any question they are asked:
    1. They will show you the rule in its relevant place in the rulebook (or Chronicles / Annual / WD).
    2. To roll a D6 to sort out any rules problems not solved by the above.
    Discussion about rules with referees during battles is not allowed and it is considered red card offence.

    You should also note that the prime duty of our Referees is to make sure that the majority of players in the tournament get a nice friendly game where winning is secondary to having a good time. Anyone who keeps on spoiling a game with picky rules questions or who consistently bends the rules in their favor will be asked to desist or suffer the consequences.
    Referees will have a simple card system to adjudicate this kind of ruling:
    YELLOW: A Yellow Card will be shown to the player(s) and their player number and name logged.
    This card is a warning.
    RED: A Red Card will be shown to the player(s) and their player number and name logged.
    Five points per Red Card will be taken from a Red booked player’s Generalship totals.
    The decision of the Chief Referee is final, and no discussion will be entered into.
    Arguing with the Chief Referee following a decision will be a RED CARD offense.
    8.) Sportsmanship points (-5 to 5 pts)
    At the end of the tournament every player will nominate one of his opponents as the friendliest one and that player will get one additional point. Also every player may nominate one of his opponents as a bad and unfair player. If someone gets at least 3 bad opponent marks 5 points will be substracted from his overall points.

    IX Team competition
    In addition to the Tournament we will also grade teams. Participants can apply in teams that consist of 2-4 players. Benefit of teams is that team mates will not be matched to play against eachother. Also, there are prizes meant for best teams.

    The prizes

    The prizes are won for the following categories:

    First place overall
    Second place overall
    Third place overall
    Master strategist
    Players Favorite Army
    Best General
    Friendliest player
    First Team overall
    Second Team overall
    Third Team overall

    SCHEDULE
    SATURDAY
    9:00 – 10:00 earliest entry and registration
    10:00 – 10:30 Briefing and introduction
    10:30 – 13:00 ROUND 1
    13:00 – 14:00 Break for lunch
    14.00 – 16.30 ROUND 2
    16:30 – 17:00 Best Painted Army Voting
    17:00 – 19:30 ROUND 3
    SUNDAY
    10:00 – 12:30 ROUND 4
    12:00 – 13:00 Lunch break
    13:00 – 15:30 ROUND 5
    16:00 – 18:30 ROUND 6 (which is not warhammer but team competition)
    19:00 - Awards Ceremony
    20:00 - End of the Tournament

    Registration
    It is very important that all players who are interested in taking part at the tournament register before 1st April.

    Registration could be sent via e-mail: drseverian@gmail.com ; Post (Vladimir Curcic, Nadezde Petrovic 8, 21000 Novi Sad, Serbia); telephone:+381 216315538 or GSM (sms): +381 69 3176302
    Registration must include name of the participant(s), contact e-mail or GSM number.
    Please let us know if you are vegetarian or have any special needs.
    It is very important that you let us know if you need accommodation otherwise we will assume that you
    will take care about it on your own!
    A single person can send registrations for his/hers club/team mates (with their consent, of course)!
    If you have any questions about the event please send an e-mail to: drseverian@gmail.com



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    Post  kgkid Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:38 am

    OK, ovo su pravila za Uprising, ali ako obratite paznju, veci deo je nevezan za samo igranje.

    Ono bitno su restrikcije (1.5 strana) i LoS (peti deo teksta, jos jedna strana).
    Scenariji su iz knjige. Na specijalne misije treba obratiti paznju.

    Pitanje koje se namece je ucesce kragujevcana na ovom turniru.

    Armije ne moraju da budu ofarbane. 2400 poena vrlo balansiranih svi imamo.
    Timovi nisu obavezni. Takmicenje je nadasve individualno.
    Uprising je tradicionalno tezak, ali izuzetno prijatan turnir.
    Niste igrali Warhammer ako niste igrali na drugom danu turnira sa 30+ ljudi, mamurni od kafane prethodne veceri.

    Neki medju nama imaju manje vremena, narocito vikendom. Neko bi ipak mogao i da ide?

    Za sada Maki i ja idemo, nagovaramo i Danka i Vukasina da nam se pridruze.

    Toza, Saran, Alf, Vaso, Zombi, Inic, Srdjan?

    Kad bismo se organizovali bilo bi nas za 3 tima. Smile

    Hajde samo javite se cim pre da mogu da vidim da li i kako mogu da nadjem neko prenociste u NS?
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    Post  Kirgan Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:31 pm

    Ja sam uvek za Dizanje ako mi nije rodjos tad Twisted Evil
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    Post  kgkid Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:56 am

    Rules download for Uprising 2011

    Moje misljenje o nekim izgovorima Very Happy

    Jos nije kasno, hajde da odemo da se druzimo!
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    Post  Kirgan Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:54 pm

    Ja ako dodjem bit cu samo dan jbg ubi me ekonomija tj sad trebam da izdam stan opet Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
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    Post  kgkid Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:59 pm

    Poslednji poziv Vlade Curcica za nas kaze:

    Ako je ovima što dolaze problem u parama ili armiji, možemo im nabaviti armiju i ne moraju da plate upad. Smile

    Mislim da bolje ne biva?

    Ja verovatno polazim sutra popodne i, ako neko hoce, moze samnom, u kolima ima mesta.
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    Post  Alf Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:30 pm

    I pored ogromne zelje da konacno nastupim na Uprisingu i nastavimo sprdnju zapocetu na Jatacenju necu uspeti! Zbog standardnih obaveza vezanih za klubske aktivnosti nikako ne mogu da uklopim da se odazovem. Da ironija bude kopletna, ovog vikenda, u subotu, igamo bas u Novom Sadu!

    U svakom slucaju, zelim svima dobre partije jer nezaboravan provod je zagarantovan!
    Pozdrav za sve. Ziveli!!!
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    Post  kgkid Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:22 pm

    Bejah, videh i ludo se provedoh!
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    Post  kgkid Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:00 pm

    Po armijama (fale mi 3):
    1. Eck - WoC
    2. Svenson - DE
    3. Pavel - Skaven
    4. Victor - O&G
    5. Marin - HE
    6. Maksa - Demoni
    7. Dopudja - Bretonija
    8. Srdjan - VC
    9. Ricard - O&G
    10. kgkid - Dwarf
    11. Laszlo - Imperija
    12. Serfeze - WoC
    13. Boskov - Lizardmen
    14. Gabor - DE
    15. Iskusinjo - HE
    16. Sale Gruba - Imperija
    17. Stojsin - HE
    18. Floigl - Skaven
    19. Metodi - HE
    20 Vojin - TK

    Moj skromni zakljucak:

    Bilo bi zanimljivo da se uradi spisak armija koje su ucestvovale. Meni fali jedno 3 igraca pa da znam sve. Ako je suditi po onome sto sam primetio, ETC pravila unela su lep balans medju armije, cak su stari OnG dosta dobro prosli. Ovakvi rezultati verovatno su najbolji pokazatelj kvaliteta AC, sto je jos jedan plus za Valhalce i ETC tim!

    Edit: ovo je sada definitvno potvrdjen spisak.

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